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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 11:58 | IP Logged Quote SkyForum

There's a new version of Adobe flash player thats being sent out as an update. We are finding that the code within this latest update of flash player is incompatible with our current chat room configurations.

The 15 year old nerds at Adobe think this is a necessary step. Instead of finding a smart way to implement these changes over time, they decided it would be ok to fusquatch up everyone's websites all at once instead.
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Among the changes implemented in Adobe Flash Player 10 is a number of user-initiated action (UIA) requirements to enhance overall security and also to cooperate with the emerging web security model as implemented by other web clients, such as browsers. This article aims to help you understand the new UIA requirements in Flash Player: what the restrictions are, why they exist, and how to create content that cooperates with them.

When an ActionScript API function has a UIA requirement, that function can be called only in response to a user action such as a mouse click or key press. Some previously available ActionScript 2.0 and ActionScript 3.0 APIs have had UIA restrictions added in Flash Player 10. In addition, some new features and APIs that are newly introduced in Flash Player 10 also are restricted.

In general, the UIA restrictions exist to make sure that potentially harmful operations such as downloading files to a user's computer, uploading files from a user's computer, entering full-screen mode, or writing to the user's Clipboard cannot take place without the user being aware of such actions, and explicitly initiating with a key press or mouse click.



If you notice that you have to hit the enter key to get your chat room to appear, you have installed this update. It's a simple matter to roll it back to a previous version.

First, go to add/remove programs. Uninstall the current version of the Adobe Flash Player.

Once that's done, go here and download the previous version to your desktop.

http://www.oldapps.com/download.php?oldappsid=flashplayer9r1 15_win.exe

Once you have the file downloaded to your desktop you must close all your browsers. Once that is done, double click the file and install it.

This will solve your flash problems in the chatroom. One note. Adobe will randomly send you an update notice and ask you if you want to install the newer version, click NO or you will be doing this all over again.

I am working on a better solution as we speak but I may not be able to resolve it without creating a whole new chat system.


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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 13:55 | IP Logged Quote Magz

Thanks for the info.  Let us know when we get a solution--I have one other app that constantly insists I need the new flash version, which annoys me to no end.

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Shameless bump ....

The solution will be the new forum code that we are working on right now. The new chatterbox is absolutely fantastic but It's going to take some time. If you roll your flash player back to an earlier version (9 or before) the problem will go away.

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Posted: 16 June 2009 at 23:20 | IP Logged Quote SkyForum

Ok, another update. I loaded IE8 and the new browser has found a way to deal with this. IE8 will allow you to run the latest flash updates and still have a functioning quackers room.

The new IE8 has a lot of cool new features, even a few for developers. Testing has also revealed it has some trouble displaying some sites. I sometimes get a blank page but a refresh seems to solve the trouble. I'd say give it a shot ad see what you think....



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I avoid updating as long as possible--we've disagreed about this before!--and I once again am just weeweeed off to the maximus!

IE8 boogered me totally, it took me an hour to get my 'puter to even function after updating, and then only by reverting to a restore point.  Which in my untrusting best interest I actually created on purpose, although I usually have that function turned off.

However...I update Adobe whenever the nerds tell me to, and I've had no problems.  And my chatbox works fine, too.  Their was a brief period when it did not a couple years ago--somewhere around Flash version 8, I think.



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really? What was it doing after you updated?

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Crashing on start-up.  Blue screen of death, total screen freeze, no communication w/mouse or keyboard..  Alternately, some start-up attempts ended with a spontaneous restart after Windows error message.

I finally gave up and booted manually and rolled back to pre-IE8.  Working just fine again.  (And Adobe too)

It's been a little while since I updated from Microsoft, so I will probably attempt to load each update individually, to see if I can find a culprit.  If all the stupid security updates and useless system-slowing crap install without crashing anything, I may try IE8 again too, as an individual update.  When I have time to be annoyed and screw with it.  And AFTER I've JUST done a COMPLETE backup of the entire box. 



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You may not like them but those updates are important. I would recommend installing all the critical updates as many of them go directly to speeding things up. There are also malicious code removers built into the Microsoft stuff that will help you rid your machine of some pretty nasty bugs.

Make sure your anti-virus is up to date.

The machine slowing down after updates are installed come directly from Microsofts love of storing their code on your machine. Once you have it updated and all is working well, I will turn you on to a little program that will help releive your machine of all that extra saved (and useless) code.

By removing all the updates that were being stored on the server, I gained nearly 2 gigs of space on my HD. IE8 really is faster and safer than it's predecessors. I would never lead you down the wrong path....

As far as backups go, I no longer recommend doing them locally. This is the hot prospect for backup right here. It does it all in the background for you and the cost is negligible ...

http://www.carbonite.com/



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Posted: 25 June 2009 at 23:45 | IP Logged Quote Magz

yeah, about that...

It looks very cool...

But why pay anything for what I can do for free, in just a few clicks?

And as far as "faster and safer," I confess that I am already sufficiently annoyed with the products designed to protect me from my own stupidity; I have little interest in improving their efficiency at this endeavor, especially when the premise upon which these products are based ultimately degrades my computer time and experience.

And if that makes no sense at all, consider this:  EVERY SINGLE "improvement" and upgrade to the "user interface" for all the major search engines has irritated the HELL out of me. 

In EVERY case, they were just FINE the way they were, IMO.  Because I READ, and I LIKED the idea of viewing every possible association with my search term, and then choosing for MYSELF which link(s) I wanted to continue to explore. 

NOW, I have choices made for me, I am protected from "potentially dangerous" links that I may want to explore, and "less relevant" returns are not revealed...it drives me CRAZY!

Faster search results are not better if they are filtered...and little drop-down suggestions rarely have anything at all to do with what I want...I despise auto-complete functions...and more than ANYTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD, I cannot STAND little icons and pictures replacing written text!! 

I don't comprehend visual aids, never have, never will.  My pea brain doesn't work that way.  I need words, Dag Nabbit!!it.  Letters, text, phrases--THOSE are descriptive. 

I'm thrilled that the rest of the world can communicate more effectively via tiny moronic pics (what the hell is the point of a favicon, anyway? and who came up with that moronic idea?) but I can't, and every single IE version incorporates more use of them. 

Whew!  sorry.  climbing off my screaming stump. I know nobody here works at Microsoft. 

But the term "upgrade" is not necessarily synonymous with "improvement," although we have been conditioned to believe otherwise.  When an upgrade fills my hard drive with "useless code," AND makes me unhappy, "improvement" and "enhancement" are not the terms that come to mind, no matter WHO endorses the upgrade as a good idea.



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Geez! Remind me to never get into an argument of old truck vs new truck with you.....




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Update...and un-update!

For the record, IE8 sucks donkey hiney, in my very opinionated opinion!

After painstakingly updating my machine one lonesome update at a time, and finding no single update that irritated the tender feelings inside that blinking box, I once again downloaded IE8.

With some measure of success.  No blue screens of death--that was an improvement.

However, the "improvement" stopped there. 

IE8 is an incredible resource hog, which consistently slowed my computer to a complete crawl ...or else it caused utter browser hang, leaving me staring at a blank page of nothingness...hello? hello? close? Close Tab? Exit? Escape? Back? Anything? Anything at all?  DO SOMETHING, DANGIT!

I'm not a patient person.  CTRL+ALT+DEL  RESTART!!!!

And what's the deal with resetting their crappy BING thing as my default search engine?  If it wasn't my default choice BEFORE I "upgraded" why would it be now? Nuke that for starters, reset home page, reset search engines....

Further,  the "cool" little accelerators and slicey things are the most annoying features I've ever seen.  Little ghosty popups all over the dam place...somebody should kill them.  Nobody but frenetic Type A, overachieving multitaskers need color coded tab 'families' and wiki poppers and page slices...or whatever the hell the people at MS named them.

After configuring all that garbage to go away and leave me alone, IE8's infinite wisdom decides I must therefore need a tutorial...which pops up randomly in my browser when I'm working...and the wretched thing can be closed, or you can suffer through the tutorial, or you can request the obnoxious little box to go away and come back later.

But unless you agree to turn ON the poppers and flyaways and transparencies and let them interfere with your browsing experience, you can't permanently get rid of the invitation. ( At least, not without painstaking effort to ferret it out and then nuking it from the application.)

After two weeks, I'm done.  IE8 added a dozen or so piggy processes everytime I opened the browser, slowed my system, and left me hanging over and over. 

I uninstalled the darn thing.  I'll stick to IE7, where everything that I can think of doing works just fine, and my computer operates at a satisfying speed.  When nothing works in it anymore, then I'll switch to Mozilla or something. 



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yeah I hate all the popups that happen now when I use IE...

 

And a lot of people thought it was bad with AOL, but IE has made AOL look great.

 

 



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